00:05:02 · Sridhar Ramaswamy
But that itself is a journey where you have to understand existing areas, come up with a brave hypothesis for where that area could go, and then do research. To be honest, what I didn't realize at the time was I was okay doing research, but I was never passionate about doing research. When people ask me today what they should work on, I typically tell them, You should work on something that makes time stand still. There are things that all of us do where we are happy to spend more and more time doing it. And after ten years of doing research, I actually decided that I wanted to reinvent myself and become a software engineer. Software engineering, writing code, is still my passion. I love the act of creation. I love the act of producing something from nothing. And my success at Google came because I liked software, I liked creating systems, but I also liked creating business impact. And there was no better team on the planet than the search ads team where technology translated into great product and enormous amounts of money for somebody like me to grow. And so my career has been a happy combination of, yes, being at the right place at the right time, but also finding things that were
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00:08:51 · Sridhar Ramaswamy
[00:08:51] S8: Truly resonant to me. And along the way, you know, like with everyone else, I've had amazing mentors, obviously, founders of Google, but also people like, Bill Campbell, who is known as the coach in these areas. He's been coached to among the greatest leaders the world has ever known. The first and most important thing that you have to internalize is that every job has its own set of requirements. There are many things that you might know. There are things that you have to learn. As a first time public company CEO, for example, I had not really dealt with analysts that cover Snowflake from a financial perspective. Getting to know them, establishing relationships with them, and understanding what it takes to work with them is something that I had to learn. I happily learned it. My biggest piece of advice would be every job has its definition of excellence, so try and figure out what that is. If you don't know, that's okay. Find other people that know. Get feedback from them about what it takes to be excellent. That way, you can aspire to be as good as the best in how somebody does their job. My Snowflake story honestly is a bit of an accident. My original agreement with the company was that I would come, join, and stay for six months. I'm a reluctant leader. I didn't start my career thinking that I would be a leader, but I saw it as hugely impactful to the organization that you are a part of. Too many people think of leadership as purely that of people management. You're also a cultural icon that sets the tone for what is valued in the company. And in my mind, that means that leaders need to truly imbue the spirit of what the company's products are about. I pride myself on being a very hands on leader that knows the details, that cares deeply, deeply about the craft of what we do. I think of software engineering as a craft, as something that is a tangible product that makes a difference to our customers. In Google, it was advertisers and end users. Over at Snowflake, it's our enterprise customers. And so being obsessive about things like product quality, making sure that it's the highest quality that is there, I think that's an important quality that a leader needs to have, which is feel the mission of your company. Is great products are the best defense, especially today when there is so much changing?
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It means that you really have to focus understand what is great today and what is great tomorrow and keep building towards that. I think that high quality products that are also priced very competitively are the ultimate defensibility. Taking care of your customers, being there for them when things are not going well is also equally important because customers will remember that you are there for them when things are not going well. These are some of the things that I think create iconic companies. That is the number one. Number two, as a leader, you need to understand that bringing people in, helping them grow, and helping them thrive is your most important job. I look for people that are driven and malleable. Why do I say that? It's because in a time that is changing as rapidly as it is right now, we want people that will go the extra mile to learn how to do things better, will strive to achieve more. I also feel you need to be very malleable, meaning you need to be adaptable because something that you were very good at yesterday might be better done by an AI model today. You cannot hang on to that. You have to keep learning new things both in your personal life as well as your professional life. And as a leader, you need to find people like this that are hungry, that want to get things done, and nurture them. Give them opportunity. Be there for them when things are not going well, and be very supportive when things are going well. You need to make sure that you learn.
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