Mercury has been profitable for four years and raised in March at a $5.2bn valuation, Immad Akhund says.
Akhund says startups demand extreme optimism, and a drive to improve the world outlasts money through hard patches.
Akhund funds new bets like Mercury Personal as internal startups, with $4m seed and $20m later, to chase 10x growth.
Immad Akhund on Funding New Bets Inside Mercury
Immad Akhund says startups demand extreme optimism and grit measured by how long you last through adversity, and that a mission to improve the world outlasts money as motivation. At Mercury, that has meant funding internal new bets like Mercury Personal as startups, raising capital without spending it, and staying profitable for four years. He argues that companies avoid the entropic drift toward becoming lame by making new bets rather than only 1% improvements to the core.
Takeaways
Mission motivation outlasts money through adversity. Immad Akhund says startups require an extreme level of optimism. A motivation to improve the world lasts longer than making money, because money motivation is hard to sustain through a hard patch. Grit is how long you last through adverse situations.
The founder is what matters in adversity. Joubin Mirzadegan cites Ben Horowitz's view that most companies fail when the founder cannot handle adversity, and that the founder is what matters. Immad Akhund finds adversity fun and thinks of startups as a game.
Mercury has been profitable for four years. Mercury has been profitable for four years and last raised at a $5.2bn valuation in March, a 120x multiple. It earlier raised at $1.6bn from Coatue on $12m of revenue. He says it is fine to raise a lot if you do not spend it.
Right fundraise gets most investors to say no. A founder pitching about 10 investors typically gets two term sheets, normally from the good VCs with more conviction and higher prices. Immad Akhund says VC advice against high valuations is self-serving. The Series A bar has moved from $1m to about $3m in revenue.
New bets beat 1% improvements to core. Immad Akhund says new bets matter against 1% improvements to the core business. Incremental gains are not enough to avoid the entropic drift toward becoming a lame company. Internal startups give new ideas room to grow.
Hiring milestones prevent scaling pain. Immad Akhund says companies should hire a recruiter at 20 people, a PM at 120 and finance at 200. You are not an exec if you manage fewer than 30 people at a small company. Early executives rarely fit, and companies drift toward becoming lame.
AI market has haves and have-nots. Immad Akhund says the AI market has haves and have-nots, and a company on the hot AI thesis can have zero revenue and still get a Series A. The wave moves so quickly that a thesis can go stale in six months.
Mercury's internal startup playbook
Mercury funds new bets inside the company as startups, giving them seed funding and later a Series A.
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Mercury Personal and Mercury Command were funded this way, with $4m in seed and later $20m as a Series A, and Mercury Books launched three weeks before the conversation.