Jenny Johnson, CEO of Franklin Templeton, says the Legg Mason deal's $4.5bn price was followed by a close 60 days early despite COVID lockdowns.
Johnson says acquirers make a big mistake by assuming their own team is the best, a lesson drawn from Franklin's 17 acquisitions in six years.
Johnson would finance large cash-generating AI companies short term but not long-term data center debt, because that bets on today's technology.
How Jenny Johnson is rebuilding a $1.8tn asset manager
Jenny Johnson sees AI as the biggest growth lever but expects it to take years to show up in earnings, so she avoids long-dated bets on today's infrastructure. Meanwhile she has used acquisitions to push Franklin Templeton into private markets and late-stage venture. She is betting that tokenization and AI agents will rebuild how asset management runs.
Takeaways
AI will reach earnings slowly. Johnson says today's 2% productivity growth owes nothing to AI, which builds on digitization and cloud. Data quality and change management slow adoption, though sector leaders could leave laggards behind. Unclear revenue accounting makes AI companies hard to compare.
Lend to AI cash flows, not data centers. She sees frothiness in parts of the market on a Gartner-style exuberance curve. She would finance large cash-generating AI companies short term but avoid long-term data center debt, because that debt bets on today's technology lasting.
Rates are normal, geopolitics is the risk. Current rates look unusual only against the last 25 years and mainly hurt leveraged business models. About 70% of companies beat earnings forecasts and consumers remain strong. The wars won't end soon, and a $20,000 drone could halt Hormuz tankers.
Seventeen deals remade Franklin around private markets. The $4.5bn Legg Mason deal, announced five days into Johnson's tenure, doubled assets, closed 60 days early despite COVID and added Clarion Partners. Lexington Partners followed. Private credit is near $100bn, and Canvas grew from $2.5bn to $30bn.
Silicon Valley roots unlock late-stage venture. As companies stayed private longer, Franklin's Silicon Valley growth equity team began buying late-stage deals, and clients then asked for a fund. Local connections brought SpaceX exposure and several Anthropic deals. Johnson flags key-person risk around Elon Musk.
Tokenization will replace financial plumbing. Johnson expects 24/7 trading with atomic settlement. A blockchain gives one instantly updated source of truth and removes reconciliation costs. Franklin's tokenized money market fund accrues interest every second and opens accounts for $20, against a $500 minimum traditionally.
Coordinated AI agents are already lifting sales. Franklin runs over 1,000 agents for 800-plus investment professionals. A Microsoft sales tool chains agents pulling product data, client holdings, social media and Morningstar ratings, with early results of 23% more client visits and 11% more sales. Agent run frequency needs governance as costs grow.
How Franklin integrates acquisitions
Never assume the acquiring team is best. Johnson calls this the biggest mistake acquirers make.
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Pay in stock when the seller wants it. Great-West Life took Franklin shares for Putnam, whose equity assets then rose from $136bn to over $220bn.
Lean on carry. Private-markets compensation creates natural retention, and the cultural fit has worked despite outside skepticism.
Add bolt-ons for scale. The private credit manager made about three deals to reach global scale, most recently buying an asset-backed origination team.